Dern bureaucrats just don’t understand.

One of these days…

In the meantime, real life continues to keep me way too busy. My regards to all and sundry over there. One of these days when I can renew my membership and actually play a little chess, I will. Until then, *waves at mark and passes all sorts of happy thoughts and fondness back toward the geek cluster.

~Kem

Cheers, Mark

The pro-abortionist always juxtapose the unborn’ death with the pitiful life they would have to endure, being born into poverty, for instance. Death? That is better than poverty? Is there no spark of imagination that may make their pitiful life have some meaning? Is there no higher principle, beyond modern comforts, that make life worth living? Have we, as a society only focused on our personal cushy existance, so much so,that we conclude that any other, poor, hapless, hand-to-mouth, existance is worse than Death?

The pro-death folks don’t like to use terms such as death, killing, murder, fetalicide. Those terms are a stark reminder that our humanity is was is being killed, figuritively, but the baby is killed, literally.

Don’t slough off the “Beethoven” argument too lightly. Many a brilliant person came from quite meager beginings. Can not we humans excercise self-control, restraint, hope, perseverance? Are these concepts good only for the history books?

Yes, I covered that. See point #4. There are plenty of human beings who need love and support, food and shelter. Having a baby just to give it away is quite literally taking food from the mouths of others in need of charity.

Your argument is the classic “killing Beethoven” one that pro-lifer’s always come up with. The difference between your philosophy and my philosophy is that I don’t value the potential life that could result as highly as I value the life that already exists on the planet and is in need of help.

The “other people involved” are not as heavily invested in the project as the mother. Her body, her choice. I agree that it’s a pretty cruddy thing to do to a guy, killing his unborn child and all… but I have to say that if you’re going to go to bed with someone, you should know them well enough to know how they feel about procreation and taking on parental responsibilities. If the woman’s views don’t mesh well with your own, and you’re unable to cope with the fact that your lack of a womb means you don’t get the final decision, then you should find someone who is more likely to let you guilt them into having a baby against her better judgment.

Just don’t be surprised when I bitch a little about paying for his free lunch.